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The Chewjitsu Podcast


Nov 6, 2023

On this episode of the podcast, BJJ black belt and ADCC Champion Robert Drysdale returns to discuss the history of Jiu-Jitsu and his new book, “The Rise and Evolution of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.”

Robert discusses his motivation behind writing his new book on the history of Jiu-Jitsu, the reception he has gotten from the book, how early Jiu-Jitsu rulesets were a reflection of the style of Jiu-Jitsu during that time, the Helio and Carlson Gracie rivalry, the difference between Helio and Carlson Gracie’s teaching styles and gyms, the most astonishing part about the evolution of Jiu-Jitsu, the important role of the second generation of the Gracie family to the evolution of Jiu-Jitsu, gym culture, why Carlson Gracie stopped teaching “self-defense” in his gym, how live rolling weeded out ineffective BJJ techniques, Robert’s Ideal training style and ruleset for Jiu-Jitsu, the idea of “Taparia” with training, how to keep Jiu-Jitsu from turning into an ineffective martial art for self-defense, creating a space and balance in the gym for different types of BJJ training, the importance of the IBJJF in keeping high standards for BJJ, why wrestling is a more "pure" martial art, Robert’s standards for BJJ Black Belt, how Robert trains as he has gotten older, and where Robert would like to see BJJ evolve to and where he thinks BJJ will go.

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